Apparently some people don't get the whole "TIPS ARE POINTLESS SO DON'T ASK" thread.

[Hollywood]

It means what it means , don't ask...and seriously, new people, you will not get tips from us, we will not tell you how to make yourself sick, so please stop asking. I just had a girl post this on my wall: "For the past year, every time I've googled stuff about losing 100 lbs & anorexia, I've came across your post where you shared your before & after picture. You are such an inspiration to me. I hope I can be as strong as you & lose the weight like you have. I don't care what it takes, I think I'm finally ready. If you could give me any tips I'd really appreciate it! "

This is what I replied and this is what all of you should understand before coming on here asking for tips: Anorexia isn't a tip to give someone..it's a disease and it sucks..Yeah your tiny in the end but it comes with a ton of baggage..anxiety of eating in front of people, always thinking about how you look, long term health problems, for me it's a weaker heart, Permanent Thyroid problems, bruising, hospitalization, malnutrition, headaches, loss of period which could in turn make you infertile, hair loss, loss of muscle, and there's much more. And even when I was tiny I thought I was massive. It never ends. I couldn't ever feel comfortable giving tips to someone on how to make yourself sick. I can't tell you how I did it. It just happened. Even if I could, I wouldn't. Sorry."

Apparently no one reads the rules anymore and if they do, they don't care..seriously people..why would you want to do this to yourselves? Ask every girl and guy on here if they want this eating disorder..the answers will be what you DON'T want to hear. No one wants to suffer like this. The consequences definitely out weigh the benefits. So, please think before doing this to yourself..it's not worth it. No size 0 is worth the long term medical conditions you will be left with. It's not normal. It's a mental illness, not a fad diet like most of you think. Please get help from a counselor, and please lose weight the healthy way. It will help you in the long run.

[biochemguy]

Next time someone asks for a tip, say that you only tip waiters and waitresses. ;)

(or strippers...not that I'm into that sort of stuff. hah)

[Hollywood]

Next time someone asks for a tip, say that you only tip waiters and waitresses. ;)

(or strippers...not that I'm into that sort of stuff. hah)

Lol..haha nice..not sure that they'd get it at all though. It never ends..it's seriously becoming annoying. Maybe next time I will say, 'don't play leapfrog with a unicorn'.

[biochemguy]

This is common with most forums though all over the internet. Nobody EVER reads the stickies. I say, respond with this (hope this works haha):

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[Hollywood]

This is common with most forums though all over the internet. Nobody EVER reads the stickies. I say, respond with this (hope this works haha):

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

This should be placed at the top where the ads are..haha..maybe then they will get it..This forum wasn't that bad before..it's been getting more and more wanas lately..too bad we can't interview everyone first..haha. jk

[weightlessrunner]

Someone actually told me off in one of the threads and said something like, yeah if you haven't noticed this is a pro-ana as well as a pro-recovery forum. Seriously WHAT THE FUCK?!?!

[Hollywood]

Seriously? No one gets it..We try and try but no one gets it..

[epona]

it happens every now and then...we get a flood of wannas, eventually they leave and it quiets down, until the next batch.
it probably a bunch of people looking to lose weight/shape up for bikini season
im just trying not to get too heated over their shit, they dont even understand how offensive their questions are so its not even worth the aggravation

[Hollywood]

It's not even the fact that it is offensive..it's the fact that they don't understand what anorexia will do to them..all the shit that goes with it. They don't know. And we need to tell them. We have a habbit of saying 'F*** off I don't want to talk to you you stupid wanna' when in fact perhaps we should tell them why it's a bad idea..or they might find that one person who will give them tips and in turn hurt themselves. Awareness is what I mean. If it makes sense..these people just don't know.

[weightlessrunner]

Seriously? No one gets it..We try and try but no one gets it..

Yeah I think it was in the thread titled 'losing..'. It's on the Anorexia forum. Go check it out. I was just amazed that she would say that.

[Hollywood]

Will do! It's hard to block all of these peole out..especially when they direct message you.

[Gremlin]

Sometimes I ignore it. Sometimes I tell them this isn't a site where we tell people how to become sick. I don't understand why anyone would want this. People have been making eating disorders seem so glamorous and like they're ways of loosing weight quickly. They don't think about what will actually happen to their bodies. So many people here explain and explain.

I hate having this. Why do they want it?

[biochemguy]

Someone(s) needs to write an article up on the nasty effects of eating disorders on people. From social aspects all the way down to the cellular level. Oooo, and with pictures maybe too. I'll write about the cell stuff!

...and we shall sticky it so that it never gets read. haha :)

[Hollywood]

Sometimes I ignore it. Sometimes I tell them this isn't a site where we tell people how to become sick. I don't understand why anyone would want this. People have been making eating disorders seem so glamorous and like they're ways of loosing weight quickly. They don't think about what will actually happen to their bodies. So many people here explain and explain.

I hate having this. Why do they want it?

Because they don't see the other shit that comes with it. All they see is a bunch of tiny girls walking around with what we know is a fake smile on our faces. They don't see the medical conditions and all the other crap that goes with it..and we need to figure out how to show them that..

[Hollywood]

Someone(s) needs to write an article up on the nasty effects of eating disorders on people. From social aspects all the way down to the cellular level. Oooo, and with pictures maybe too. I'll write about the cell stuff!

...and we shall sticky it so that it never gets read. haha :)

I like this idea..your good at the cell stuff. We will get all of the 'regulars' here to post all of the medical issues they have because of anorexia or bulimia for me, it's mainly permanant thyroid problems..and autoimmune disease where if I didn't take Synthroid everyday, it would eventually lead to death. But 'they' don't know what's behind all of this..We need a plan of action.

[Gremlin]

Someone(s) needs to write an article up on the nasty effects of eating disorders on people. From social aspects all the way down to the cellular level. Oooo, and with pictures maybe too. I'll write about the cell stuff!

...and we shall sticky it so that it never gets read. haha :)
Haha. Or we could title it "OMGZ just gaind like 5lb!!!!!! help????" That would certainly draw them in.


Because they don't see the other shit that comes with it. All they see is a bunch of tiny girls walking around with what we know is a fake smile on our faces. They don't see the medical conditions and all the other crap that goes with it..and we need to figure out how to show them that..
Yeah, that's true. Just wish I knew how to make them see the truth. There has to be some way...

[Gremlin]

I like this idea..your good at the cell stuff. We will get all of the 'regulars' here to post all of the medical issues they have because of anorexia or bulimia for me, it's mainly permanant thyroid problems..and autoimmune disease where if I didn't take Synthroid everyday, it would eventually lead to death. But 'they' don't know what's behind all of this..We need a plan of action.

Not just the medical issues, there should be the thoughts and feelings and fear that goes along with it mentioned. This definitely needs to be done..

[epona]

It's not even the fact that it is offensive..it's the fact that they don't understand what anorexia will do to them..all the shit that goes with it. They don't know. And we need to tell them. We have a habbit of saying 'F*** off I don't want to talk to you you stupid wanna' when in fact perhaps we should tell them why it's a bad idea..or they might find that one person who will give them tips and in turn hurt themselves. Awareness is what I mean. If it makes sense..these people just don't know.

if they would bother to read my post at the top that says Please Read This, they would be enlightened on a few of the less desirable side effects of having eating disorders.
unfortunately, i think most people dont even bother

[Hollywood]

Not just the medical issues, there should be the thoughts and feelings and fear that goes along with it mentioned. This definitely needs to be done..

Okay so Bio Chem Guy can write on the cellular level, You can write the emotional aspect, and Cali and I can write down all of the medical stuff and we can use your title suggestion of "omgz I just gained like 5lbs' ready and GO! JK. it's not that easy. Ritesh should throw in suggestions.

[Gremlin]

Okay so Bio Chem Guy can write on the cellular level, You can write the emotional aspect, and Cali and I can write down all of the medical stuff and we can use your title suggestion of "omgz I just gained like 5lbs' ready and GO! JK. it's not that easy. Ritesh should throw in suggestions.

I think what we should do is have editors for the three sections, Bio Chem Guy for cellular, you and Cali for medical, me for emotional, and Ritesh for everything, and then we should get regulars on the site to contribute to each section.

[Hollywood]

I think what we should do is have editors for the three sections, Bio Chem Guy for cellular, you and Cali for medical, me for emotional, and Ritesh for everything, and then we should get regulars on the site to contribute to each section.

I like this idea..we could do that..ours can be the first and main post and the others can comment there after..Someone should direct this thread to Ritesh and get his opinion..we can all write our section, send it to Ritesh who can stick it as a thread or something..it should go in all ED sections on this forum and especially the 'welcome new members' section.

[epona]

really though, we have to realize that every "wanna" that comes to this forum with the wrong ideas about anorexia is not our responsibility. we cant save people from themselves. a lot of the so-called wannas are probably at least ed-nos, or have issues with self-image and food; otherwise why would they be on this forum? we can tell them its bad, it hurts your body, it wont make you happy...but for the most part, they wont listen. they dont understand. they cant understand, because they dont live it...yet.
so we can give warnings, we have the stickied posts at the top as a warning, but we cant make anyone love and accept his or her body. we do what we can, but we cant feel responsible when its not enough. we all live with enough guilt already.

[Gremlin]

really though, we have to realize that every "wanna" that comes to this forum with the wrong ideas about anorexia is not our responsibility. we cant save people from themselves. a lot of the so-called wannas are probably at least ed-nos, or have issues with self-image and food; otherwise why would they be on this forum? we can tell them its bad, it hurts your body, it wont make you happy...but for the most part, they wont listen. they dont understand. they cant understand, because they dont live it...yet.
so we can give warnings, we have the stickied posts at the top as a warning, but we cant make anyone love and accept his or her body. we do what we can, but we cant feel responsible when its not enough. we all live with enough guilt already.

That's true. But putting people's stories out there might make them see just a bit of what it's like.

[Hollywood]

Well I know this..I just mean we can try..in a more relatable way. By not 1 person posting a sticky because who is going to listen to 1 person? But to get a lot of us together..at least this forum will be better and we at least know that people on here will see and understand it and mabye those who are more recently diagnosed with anorexia will read it and recover before they get to 'that point'..I know 1 person wouldn't stop me from doing something but I would at least be moved if I saw a whole group trying. if that makes any sense. I'm not saying we shoud feel guilty and feel we have to save everyone. Because we don't..but we can make those who choose to read it aware. And it would help even us who are for sure 'ana' to look back on it and see what everyone has gone through and we can relate..it'd make us stronger.

[Hollywood]

That's true. But putting people's stories out there might make them see just a bit of what it's like.

exactly..if you were one of them on this forum and you read 1 person's story of how this disease nearly destroyed them, you'd think that this is just 1 person and I'l be fine..but if we get all of us or most of us..then maybe you'd think wow, maybe this isn't such a good idea./

[Gremlin]

Well I know this..I just mean we can try..in a more relatable way. By not 1 person posting a sticky because who is going to listen to 1 person? But to get a lot of us together..at least this forum will be better and we at least know that people on here will see and understand it and mabye those who are more recently diagnosed with anorexia will read it and recover before they get to 'that point'..I know 1 person wouldn't stop me from doing something but I would at least be moved if I saw a whole group trying. if that makes any sense. I'm not saying we shoud feel guilty and feel we have to save everyone. Because we don't..but we can make those who choose to read it aware. And it would help even us who are for sure 'ana' to look back on it and see what everyone has gone through and we can relate..it'd make us stronger.

I hadn't thought about how it could make us stronger but you're right. It could definitely help with that and it's important that we give each other streangth.

[Gremlin]

exactly..if you were one of them on this forum and you read 1 person's story of how this disease nearly destroyed them, you'd think that this is just 1 person and I'l be fine..but if we get all of us or most of us..then maybe you'd think wow, maybe this isn't such a good idea./

Exactly. With all the combined stories it could get their attention.

[Hollywood]

I hadn't thought about how it could make us stronger but you're right. It could definitely help with that and it's important that we give each other streangth.

The big question..would Ritesh agree? He's the person who would think we should do what we talked about or not..

[epona]

exactly..if you were one of them on this forum and you read 1 person's story of how this disease nearly destroyed them, you'd think that this is just 1 person and I'l be fine..but if we get all of us or most of us..then maybe you'd think wow, maybe this isn't such a good idea./

thats why i shared a part of my story in the post stickied to the top of the forum and invited other members to share their horror stories, how their lives were destroyed by anorexia...i actually havent even been able to re read what i wrote, even though i could add to it now...its too painful because im trying to face the fact that anorexia really might have ruined my life, and if i cannot ride my horse it will only be a matter of time (and not long either) before i just..go crazy.

[Gremlin]

The big question..would Ritesh agree? He's the person who would think we should do what we talked about or not..

I hope he would agree... I don't think it violates any of the rules of the forum.

[Gremlin]

thats why i shared a part of my story in the post stickied to the top of the forum and invited other members to share their horror stories, how their lives were destroyed by anorexia...i actually havent even been able to re read what i wrote, even though i could add to it now...its too painful because im trying to face the fact that anorexia really might have ruined my life, and if i cannot ride my horse it will only be a matter of time (and not long either) before i just..go crazy.

I saw that... I'm sorry. It must be so hard to deal with *hug*

[Hollywood]

thats why i shared a part of my story in the post stickied to the top of the forum and invited other members to share their horror stories, how their lives were destroyed by anorexia...i actually havent even been able to re read what i wrote, even though i could add to it now...its too painful because im trying to face the fact that anorexia really might have ruined my life, and if i cannot ride my horse it will only be a matter of time (and not long either) before i just..go crazy.

I know, I saw your post..and I haven't looked at it since..I just meant that if three or four of us include our stories in the initial posts, it might do something different. As in we are all together on the subject.

[Hollywood]

I hope he would agree... I don't think it violates any of the rules of the forum.

Yeah...but is it work asking at all or should we just forget it?

[epona]

I hope he would agree... I don't think it violates any of the rules of the forum.

i think as long as we all follow the general rules of 'play nice' and 'dont encourage ed behavior in anyone else' then its all good...

[Gremlin]

Yeah...but is it work asking at all or should we just forget it?

I think it's worth asking. There's no harm that can be done by asking and sharing the idea.

[epona]

I know, I saw your post..and I haven't looked at it since..I just meant that if three or four of us include our stories in the initial posts, it might do something different. As in we are all together on the subject.

what do you mean, like half a dozen stickies of peoples stories?
not gonna lie, that would be kind of annoying. i see your reasoning, but it would kinda clog up the forum. what about having a separate page for that, that you have to click through before making an account?

[Hollywood]

I think it's worth asking. There's no harm that can be done by asking and sharing the idea.

Yeah true..Cali do you see what I mean if a few of us organize our thoughts in one post? cuz we were going to have you, me, gremlin and biochem guy do it. And you have a lot of pull here. I mean you post daily, have that sticky, etc..

[Hollywood]

what do you mean, like half a dozen stickies of peoples stories?
not gonna lie, that would be kind of annoying. i see your reasoning, but it would kinda clog up the forum. what about having a separate page for that, that you have to click through before making an account?

NO!! not a ton of stickies..okay so you know how you posted your story? we (gremlin) and I talked about kind of writing an essay where me you biochemguy and her posted different paragraphs that we were assigned to IN ONE post..

[Hollywood]

I think it's worth asking. There's no harm that can be done by asking and sharing the idea.

Alright..would you do the asking? He's online now I think

[Gremlin]

what do you mean, like half a dozen stickies of peoples stories?
not gonna lie, that would be kind of annoying. i see your reasoning, but it would kinda clog up the forum. what about having a separate page for that, that you have to click through before making an account?

That would be interesting, having being a page to go through before making an account. I feel like people wouldn't read it, though. I'm pretty sure a lot of people skipped through the TOS..

[Hollywood]

That would be interesting, having being a page to go through before making an account. I feel like people wouldn't read it, though. I'm pretty sure a lot of people skipped through the TOS..

Yep. Pretty much. Which is why we should have an attention grabbing essay of some sort.

[Gremlin]

Alright..would you do the asking? He's online now I think

me? I sort of disagreed with him about something in the science thread... I would if I hadn't disagreed with him about it... Would you mind asking?

[epona]

NO!! not a ton of stickies..okay so you know how you posted your story? we (gremlin) and I talked about kind of writing an essay where me you biochemguy and her posted different paragraphs that we were assigned to IN ONE post..

sure, id love to help, i think the intentions behind this are very good ones. we need a title though that will actually make them click on it
how about "omGz i lost 15 lbs in 5 Days!!!!"
lol jk
but yah sure im in

[Gremlin]

Yep. Pretty much. Which is why we should have an attention grabbing essay of some sort.

Yes. Attention grabbing being key. Which means it needs to be written in a way accessible to everyone, especially the parts involving science and side effects. I love writing essays! Ooooh, I'm such a nerd.

[Hollywood]

me? I sort of disagreed with him about something in the science thread... I would if I hadn't disagreed with him about it... Would you mind asking?

I love how the me was smaller..haha. I will as long as we get the other two on board. I mean if we four aren't all for it, we might as well forget it..it would fall through with two of us..cali does hav e alot of pull on this forum..

[Gremlin]

sure, id love to help, i think the intentions behind this are very good ones. we need a title though that will actually make them click on it
how about "omGz i lost 15 lbs in 5 Days!!!!"
lol jk
but yah sure im in

Haha, that's pretty much the opposite of what I suggested. I said "omgz!! just gand 5lb!!!! help????" :p I think we should probably use something a bit more serious.

[Gremlin]

I love how the me was smaller..haha. I will as long as we get the other two on board. I mean if we four aren't all for it, we might as well forget it..it would fall through with two of us..cali does hav e alot of pull on this forum..

Yeah... heh...
Cali seems to be onboard. We just have to see if Bio Chem Guy would still be interesting in being part of it.

[Hollywood]

sure, id love to help, i think the intentions behind this are very good ones. we need a title though that will actually make them click on it
how about "omGz i lost 15 lbs in 5 Days!!!!"
lol jk
but yah sure im in

excellent..I like this..you guys are awesome. I'm not good at presenting things. so someone just post a link telling him to read it all. idk..haha. we should seriously post like omg lose 10lbs a week with this diet..or something..jk

[Gremlin]

excellent..I like this..you guys are awesome. I'm not good at presenting things. so someone just post a link telling him to read it all. idk..haha. we should seriously post like omg lose 10lbs a week with this diet..or something..jk

If you want I write up a summarization of the plans and you can send it to him??

But we should probably think of a title first...

[epona]

actually that kind of title would probably get their attention better than anything else
the rest of us just have to have a sense of humor about it
and i just gave him the link so maybe explain what it is you want to do? im still kind of confused as to what this idea is

[Hollywood]

Yeah... heh...
Cali seems to be onboard. We just have to see if Bio Chem Guy would still be interesting in being part of it.

I'm sure he would be. Your good with the emotional stuff.

[Hollywood]

actually that kind of title would probably get their attention better than anything else
the rest of us just have to have a sense of humor about it
and i just gave him the link so maybe explain what it is you want to do? im still kind of confused as to what this idea is

did you read our convo before? we kind of pieced it together..in several posts. That title seems eye catching..i'd click on it. haha.

[Gremlin]

actually that kind of title would probably get their attention better than anything else
the rest of us just have to have a sense of humor about it
and i just gave him the link so maybe explain what it is you want to do? im still kind of confused as to what this idea is

Basically what would be happening is people would write out their stories and the four of us (Bio Chem Guy would be the fourth) would edit it and organize it into different parts. One part of it would feature different peoples stories of emotional stress caused by it, another about how it effects cells and possibly other parts of the body, and another part about how side effects have effected us. It would all be put together in a way that flowed nicely so people would actually read it.

[Gremlin]

I'm sure he would be. Your good with the emotional stuff.

Awesome. And you and Cali would do the part about side effects?

[Hollywood]

Yeah we can do that..you can do a catchy beginning too if you like..hopefully all of this makes sense..and it will take time to coordinate everything..but maybe our hard work will show.

[Gremlin]

Yeah we can do that..you can do a catchy beginning too if you like..hopefully all of this makes sense..and it will take time to coordinate everything..but maybe our hard work will show.

Yeah, it will take time but that will make it better I think. Catchy beginning, sounds good.

[epona]

sounds good to me
im particularly interested to read biochemguy's input, few people here know the details about this the way he seems to..

also btw i sent him the link to this thread so chillllll
@gremlin, dont worry hes a really nice guy, i really dont think he would hold a grudge as long as you disagreed politely

[Gremlin]

I'm really interested to find out his input as well. Especially with all the science he knows.

[Hollywood]

Im actually curious to see how it messes with us at the cellular level..So in other words, I hope he is in on it..and we need a guy to join as well. so we can reach all audiences.

[Gremlin]

I'm pretty sure he's still online.. One of us could post a visitor message or something..

[epona]

Im actually curious to see how it messes with us at the cellular level..So in other words, I hope he is in on it..and we need a guy to join as well. so we can reach all audiences.

id like his input because i think it would be enlightening...excuse the laughable terminology, i cant think of a better word..to be honest i dont see how his gender makes much of a difference
ED's are different for everyone, and im sure the situation is greatly altered for males, since most sufferers are female -
but then again, isnt it also the same for everyone? it all comes down to a few things that make up the face of the disorder, the basic things we all struggle with every day...

[Hollywood]

so does ritesh and biochemguy know?

[Hollywood]

id like his input because i think it would be enlightening...excuse the laughable terminology, i cant think of a better word..to be honest i dont see how his gender makes much of a difference
ED's are different for everyone, and im sure the situation is greatly altered for males, since most sufferers are female -
but then again, isnt it also the same for everyone? it all comes down to a few things that make up the face of the disorder, the basic things we all struggle with every day...

well yes all of this. I just thought it would be cool to have him write with us. We all suffer the same everyday, but I mean each of us has our own strength on what to input into this. Anyway..he is pretty funny and I really like that GIF file he posted..haha.

[epona]

so does ritesh and biochemguy know?

ritesh knows, he said he will read through this thread later when he has time. i am not sure if biochemguy knows

[Hollywood]

Okay cool. I'm sure bio chem guy will catch up on it later.

[Gremlin]

id like his input because i think it would be enlightening...excuse the laughable terminology, i cant think of a better word..to be honest i dont see how his gender makes much of a difference
ED's are different for everyone, and im sure the situation is greatly altered for males, since most sufferers are female -
but then again, isnt it also the same for everyone? it all comes down to a few things that make up the face of the disorder, the basic things we all struggle with every day...

I think in some ways it is the same for everyone but males often get forgotten when people talk about eating disorders.

[epona]

yep, keep me updated. ill probably be back on here tomorrow, i dont have anything to do except get another MRI done and baking my mothers birthday cake (psychological torture that i am so not prepared for....)

[epona]

I think in some ways it is the same for everyone but males often get forgotten when people talk about eating disorders.

well idk about everyone else, but when i talk about an ED im not thinking in terms of gender. one of my closest friends is a gay male with anorexia. if i use a feminine pronoun when speaking about the disorder(s) its only because the majority of sufferers are female

[Gremlin]

well idk about everyone else, but when i talk about an ED im not thinking in terms of gender. one of my closest friends is a gay male with anorexia. if i use a feminine pronoun when speaking about the disorder(s) its only because the majority of sufferers are female

I was speaking broadly. I have a friend as well who is male with anorexia. I never assumed it was strictly female, I just think often males are forgotten about when just talking about EDs in general.

[abitdifferent]

same kinda arguments when I first joined...same arguments throughout...and when I come back it's same arguments again. people are going to ask for tips and if they don't do it in the forums they will get it on chat. or another anorexia forum. it's easy to get mad about it and rant but the truth is they will NOT listen. just forget about em they are just lil freaks who don't have the brain power to realize Anorexics don't need to tips or ever needed them to try commit suicide most of the time.

ignore em ignore em ignore em. posts on a forum aren't going to change anybody s drive in trying to lose weight in stupid ways...they will laugh it off and carry on. if they don't get put off by everybody writing their struggles then people pointing out the dangers (for the billionth time btw) won't do anything.

just click and away ignore. won't change nothing all of this :/

[Hollywood]

well idk about everyone else, but when i talk about an ED im not thinking in terms of gender. one of my closest friends is a gay male with anorexia. if i use a feminine pronoun when speaking about the disorder(s) its only because the majority of sufferers are female

we will keep you updated..have a good night and try not to think about what you are baking too much..and I undestand what you mean about the guy thing.

[abitdifferent]

had a better read through

all of that shit would be pointless....a simple poll...listing the negative effects of anorexia and for people to comment and vote on it. make that a sticky..would be more than enough

appointing people special roles for certain things and picking and choosing isn't a very good idea...it'll drive new people away imo...actually most definantley

[Gremlin]

same kinda arguments when I first joined...same arguments throughout...and when I come back it's same arguments again. people are going to ask for tips and if they don't do it in the forums they will get it on chat. or another anorexia forum. it's easy to get mad about it and rant but the truth is they will NOT listen. just forget about em they are just lil freaks who don't have the brain power to realize Anorexics don't need to tips or ever needed them to try commit suicide most of the time.

ignore em ignore em ignore em. posts on a forum aren't going to change anybody s drive in trying to lose weight in stupid ways...they will laugh it off and carry on. if they don't get put off by everybody writing their struggles then people pointing out the dangers (for the billionth time btw) won't do anything.

just click and away ignore. won't change nothing all of this :/

Perhaps they won't go away, but they're still people and they still deserve to be given a chance. I think we should at least try to make them see what it's really like or they could end up with problems, because chances are if they're looking to "get" any disorder they're already a bit f-ed up.

[Hollywood]

same kinda arguments when I first joined...same arguments throughout...and when I come back it's same arguments again. people are going to ask for tips and if they don't do it in the forums they will get it on chat. or another anorexia forum. it's easy to get mad about it and rant but the truth is they will NOT listen. just forget about em they are just lil freaks who don't have the brain power to realize Anorexics don't need to tips or ever needed them to try commit suicide most of the time.

ignore em ignore em ignore em. posts on a forum aren't going to change anybody s drive in trying to lose weight in stupid ways...they will laugh it off and carry on. if they don't get put off by everybody writing their struggles then people pointing out the dangers (for the billionth time btw) won't do anything.

just click and away ignore. won't change nothing all of this :/
Did you even read everything we wrote?

[Gremlin]

had a better read through

all of that shit would be pointless....a simple poll...listing the negative effects of anorexia and for people to comment and vote on it. make that a sticky..would be more than enough

appointing people special roles for certain things and picking and choosing isn't a very good idea...it'll drive new people away imo...actually most definantley

That's just for this one thing, not for the long term at all. It's so everything for the post we're planning can be organized.

[Hollywood]

had a better read through

all of that shit would be pointless....a simple poll...listing the negative effects of anorexia and for people to comment and vote on it. make that a sticky..would be more than enough

appointing people special roles for certain things and picking and choosing isn't a very good idea...it'll drive new people away imo...actually most definantley

what makes you say this? you haven't tried it before so how can you be for sure?

[abitdifferent]

Did you even read everything we wrote?


yeah...still a bad idea

c'mon you guys....you don't honestly think your going to change anybody s opinion on this? they don't care...they just want to lose weight. pure and simple. part of the reason I don't come here as much anymore. just leave em to it

[nathrakh]

Maybe just make a informative post at the top. Compilation of guides. Both pro ana and healthy. The wanna's can find all the information they want without having to ask for it. Its against the forums policy to give tips. But keeping information from people isnt gonna stop them from getting it one way or another. Atleast this might decrease the amount of wanna's asking for tips.

[abitdifferent]

go on then try it....but your telling me a simple poll wouldn't have the exact same effect on them? you know it would. more info and more input etc won't make there eyes widen with horror and realization anymore than you would imagine...these people dribble with envy at the site of an almost dead person lolll...hard to get through to them kinda people.

[Gremlin]

yeah...still a bad idea

c'mon you guys....you don't honestly think your going to change anybody s opinion on this? they don't care...they just want to lose weight. pure and simple. part of the reason I don't come here as much anymore. just leave em to it

You never know until you try. There are better ways to just lose weight that don't have such horrible effects.

[Hollywood]

yeah...still a bad idea

c'mon you guys....you don't honestly think your going to change anybody s opinion on this? they don't care...they just want to lose weight. pure and simple. part of the reason I don't come here as much anymore. just leave em to it

we aren't really trying to change anyone's opinion..we are trying to make new members joining for a quick fad diet leave.

[biochemguy]

Wow, I leave for 5-10 minutes and 8 pages of thread! Haha sorry, I was in my science thread in the general discussion forum. FOR SCIENCE! I wonder what I can write on for bulimia (since that's what I have). I could go into the finer aspects of alkalosis leading to hypokalemia and its effects on the nervous system.

Neurons, action potentials, and hearts OH MY.

[Gremlin]

go on then try it....but your telling me a simple poll wouldn't have the exact same effect on them? you know it would. more info and more input etc won't make there eyes widen with horror and realization anymore than you would imagine...these people dribble with envy at the site of an almost dead person lolll...hard to get through to them kinda people.

A simple poll wouldn't have the same effect at all. A poll would be asking them a question we already know their answer to. At least this way we're putting out there what has happened to people who are dealing with eating disorders.

[Hollywood]

go on then try it....but your telling me a simple poll wouldn't have the exact same effect on them? you know it would. more info and more input etc won't make there eyes widen with horror and realization anymore than you would imagine...these people dribble with envy at the site of an almost dead person lolll...hard to get through to them kinda people.

I totally understand your point and i like the poll idea as well..I'm not saying you are wrong but we dont' know for sure..I'm just sick of every forum being like this and as you said you don't come on here as much..

[abitdifferent]

we aren't really trying to change anyone's opinion..we are trying to make new members joining for a quick fad diet leave.

EVERY single website has them people...if ya want 1 without any wannas or diet seekers. go to anabites. other than that...ther will be dieters and wannas forever no matter what

look at the prettythin homepage...that should be enough to make em fuck off and not come back shouldn't it?...but it doesn't work lol

[Hollywood]

Wow, I leave for 5-10 minutes and 8 pages of thread! Haha sorry, I was in my science thread in the general discussion forum. FOR SCIENCE! I wonder what I can write on for bulimia (since that's what I have). I could go into the finer aspects of alkalosis leading to hypokalemia and its effects on the nervous system.

Neurons, action potentials, and hearts OH MY.
so you are in then? Awesome..haha. we could use you and your awesome nerdy science-ness and wit. do you think it is a good idea?

[biochemguy]

It may not be a matter of convincing ALL visitors to never ask such questions, but do you think it would be worth it if we just had at least 1 single person out of the thousands who took what we have to say to heart?

[Gremlin]

Wow, I leave for 5-10 minutes and 8 pages of thread! Haha sorry, I was in my science thread in the general discussion forum. FOR SCIENCE! I wonder what I can write on for bulimia (since that's what I have). I could go into the finer aspects of alkalosis leading to hypokalemia and its effects on the nervous system.

Neurons, action potentials, and hearts OH MY.

"Fun science, fun science, fun science, science that's fun!" Sorry... had to.

I think that would be really interesting to find out about.

[Hollywood]

why is anabites different then?

[The Aftermath]

yeah...still a bad idea

c'mon you guys....you don't honestly think your going to change anybody s opinion on this? they don't care...they just want to lose weight. pure and simple. part of the reason I don't come here as much anymore. just leave em to it

I think that's a terrible philosophy. What would our world be like if people didn't try to change it? Even things that seem pointless and a waste of time have been successfully improved by people who were willing to give it a shot. I highly disagree with that way of thinking.

Guys I think this is a good idea and honestly, if you're willing to put in the effort then why the heck not? It's your own time and it might help even one person. Don't listen to anyone saying it's a waste of time because it doesn't matter, it's YOUR time.

If there's anything I can do to help let me know. I'm not sure what I could do but I'm a big ol' psychology nerd so I'm here if you need anything psychology related. :p

[Hollywood]

It may not be a matter of convincing ALL visitors to never ask such questions, but do you think it would be worth it if we just had at least 1 single person out of the thousands who took what we have to say to heart?

I think it would be worth it but a lof of people here are hoping for tons of people..but just one..even that would pay off.

[abitdifferent]

why is anabites different then?

Because it is Pro-reality...everyone wants everyone to get better pretty much. no tip shit in the slightest. most of em on there wouldn't dream of asking...it's a slower moving forum/chat yeah. but the environment isn't triggering at all

[Hollywood]

I think that's a terrible philosophy. What would our world be like if people didn't try to change it? Even things that seem pointless and a waste of time have been successfully improved by people who were willing to give it a shot. I highly disagree with that way of thinking.

Guys I think this is a good idea and honestly, if you're willing to put in the effort then why the heck not? It's your own time and it might help even one person. Don't listen to anyone saying it's a waste of time because it doesn't matter, it's YOUR time.

If there's anything I can do to help let me know. I'm not sure what I could do but I'm a big ol' psychology nerd so I'm here if you need anything psychology related. :p

so you could help Gremlin with the emotional aspect of things then.

[Hollywood]

so why can't we make this place like anabite then>

[Gremlin]

I think that's a terrible philosophy. What would our world be like if people didn't try to change it? Even things that seem pointless and a waste of time have been successfully improved by people who were willing to give it a shot. I highly disagree with that way of thinking.

Guys I think this is a good idea and honestly, if you're willing to put in the effort then why the heck not? It's your own time and it might help even one person. Don't listen to anyone saying it's a waste of time because it doesn't matter, it's YOUR time.

If there's anything I can do to help let me know. I'm not sure what I could do but I'm a big ol' psychology nerd so I'm here if you need anything psychology related. :p

It would definitely be great if you could contribute psychological effects of an ED and how they've effected you.

[Hollywood]

Maybe just make a informative post at the top. Compilation of guides. Both pro ana and healthy. The wanna's can find all the information they want without having to ask for it. Its against the forums policy to give tips. But keeping information from people isnt gonna stop them from getting it one way or another. Atleast this might decrease the amount of wanna's asking for tips.

This is going against what we are trying to do besides the fact that it is against the rules.

[biochemguy]

so why can't we make this place like anabite then>

Because, pink is NOT a manly color. :P

[The Aftermath]

I think it would be worth it but a lof of people here are hoping for tons of people..but just one..even that would pay off.

Amen.

Some people are really impressionable and that's what got them in that mindset in the first place. If we can make an impact on even one impressionable, confused young mind then that's one life potentially spared from this hell.

[abitdifferent]

I think that's a terrible philosophy. What would our world be like if people didn't try to change it? Even things that seem pointless and a waste of time have been successfully improved by people who were willing to give it a shot. I highly disagree with that way of thinking.

Guys I think this is a good idea and honestly, if you're willing to put in the effort then why the heck not? It's your own time and it might help even one person. Don't listen to anyone saying it's a waste of time because it doesn't matter, it's YOUR time.

If there's anything I can do to help let me know. I'm not sure what I could do but I'm a big ol' psychology nerd so I'm here if you need anything psychology related. :p

lol...I highly disagree with your way of thinking too...cause I've been through this same thought process and this website myself...IT WON'T CHANGE...IT'S ACTUALLY GOTTEN WORSE! sooner ya see that and ignore them all the better

[The Aftermath]

It would definitely be great if you could contribute psychological effects of an ED and how they've effected you.

Awesome, I'd love to. I could go straight from the beginning stages of an eating disorder all the way to being completely entrenched in one, whatever you need ;)

[Gremlin]

lol...I highly disagree with your way of thinking too...cause I've been through this same thought process and this website myself...IT WON'T CHANGE...IT'S ACTUALLY GOTTEN WORSE! sooner ya see that and ignore them all the better

It certainly won't change if no one does anything.

[Hollywood]

Because, pink is NOT a manly color. :P

I haven't gone to the website..and I hate pink so I'm fine with that..your funny..I love it.

[Gremlin]

Awesome, I'd love to. I could go straight from the beginning stages of an eating disorder all the way to being completely entrenched in one, whatever you need ;)

That would be awesome :)

[Hollywood]

Awesome, I'd love to. I could go straight from the beginning stages of an eating disorder all the way to being completely entrenched in one, whatever you need ;)

SOunds awesome..so we have cellular effects, physical effects, emotional, and now psychological. once we ge Ritesh's approval we can figure out how to piece it together.

[Gremlin]

Because, pink is NOT a manly color. :P

Pink is just not a nice colour in general..

[abitdifferent]

so why can't we make this place like anabite then>

if you rally wanna put time and effort into changing a website that has new faces come and go daily...go for it. but I'll bet in years to come and look at the website and go "godd what a waste of time that was".

I'll leave yas to it..I was only saying how bad of an idea it all is. can hope it will change but it won't.

Good luck though

[Gremlin]

SOunds awesome..so we have cellular effects, physical effects, emotional, and now psychological. once we ge Ritesh's approval we can figure out how to piece it together.

Oh good, I love piecing things together!! I'm excited for that part. We should probably have a fairly vague outline at first since we don't know much about each others writing styles.

[The Aftermath]

if you rally wanna put time and effort into changing a website that has new faces come and go daily...go for it. but I'll bet in years to come and look at the website and go "godd what a waste of time that was".

I'll leave yas to it..I was only saying how bad of an idea it all is. can hope it will change but it won't.

Good luck though

Hell we waste our time on worse things like counting calories and b/ping. At least this is productive. ;)

[Hollywood]

if you rally wanna put time and effort into changing a website that has new faces come and go daily...go for it. but I'll bet in years to come and look at the website and go "godd what a waste of time that was".

I'll leave yas to it..I was only saying how bad of an idea it all is. can hope it will change but it won't.

Good luck though

Thanks..and I guess we will find out.

[abitdifferent]

why not start your own website anyway...? lol instead of trying to change the unchangeable.

[abitdifferent]

Thanks..and I guess we will find out.

and I'll put billion pounds on the outcome..."waste of time"

[Hollywood]

Oh good, I love piecing things together!! I'm excited for that part. We should probably have a fairly vague outline at first since we don't know much about each others writing styles.

Yeah good idea..we'll wait for approval then send the outline..we will have to coordinate times and such

[Gremlin]

Yeah good idea..we'll wait for approval then send the outline..we will have to coordinate times and such

Yes. Since it's going to written my multiple people organization is quite important.

[biochemguy]

Because it's easier to repaint a house than it is to rebuild an entirely new one.

(if that makes sense.) hah

[Hollywood]

and I'll put billion pounds on the outcome..."waste of time"

Okay you do that.

[Gremlin]

Because it's easier to repaint a house than it is to rebuild an entirely new one.

(if that makes sense.) hah

It makes perfect sense. And this site is nice and organized and pretty and has a lovely name.

[Hollywood]

Because it's easier to repaint a house than it is to rebuild an entirely new one.

(if that makes sense.) hah

Yeah it does.

[abitdifferent]

Because it's easier to repaint a house than it is to rebuild an entirely new one.

(if that makes sense.) hah


yeah but with a new 1 you can put up new gates and keep certain people out because it is unheard of at first and isn't taunted...with an old house the reputation remains the same and the same people will always come no matter how much you dress it up. try google some anorexia things. this site usually comes up. doing this will never change that...and will put more genuine people off imo

[biochemguy]

I'm already getting ideas on how low potassium can cause heart attacks and respiratory paralysis. BE AFRAID POTENTIAL ED'ers for I shall amaze you with SCIENCE.

[Hollywood]

yeah but with a new 1 you can put up new gates and keep certain people out because it is unheard of at first and isn't taunted...with an old house the reputation remains the same and the same people will always come no matter how much you dress it up. try google some anorexia things. this site usually comes up. doing this will never change that...and will put more genuine people off imo

I suppose but how can you say this without any proof? It's not like anyone has tried it before. most people have the mindset like you saying..why even bother? but the benefits weigh out the costs in my opinion and all of us agree here except you.

[Hollywood]

I'm already getting ideas on how low potassium can cause heart attacks and respiratory paralysis. BE AFRAID POTENTIAL ED'ers for I shall amaze you with SCIENCE.

Yes...i'm excited to hear your part of it. I never thought of it this way at all..on a cellular level anyway.

[biochemguy]

...try google some anorexia things. this site usually comes up.doing this will never change that...and will put more genuine people off imo

All the more reason to use this site instead? Also, how will putting up educational material "put more genuine people off" especially when they apparently don't read it to begin with? Although, I am sympathetic towards people not wanting to learn things. Sorta. haha but still.

[Gremlin]

I'm already getting ideas on how low potassium can cause heart attacks and respiratory paralysis. BE AFRAID POTENTIAL ED'ers for I shall amaze you with SCIENCE.

I never really thought about that. I sort of ignored them when they told us all about that at the first treatment centre I went to...

[abitdifferent]

hahaha this is sooooooo sad man wtf is happening on here!?!?!

[Gremlin]

hahaha this is sooooooo sad man wtf is happening on here!?!?!

Right, I'm pretty sure we all understand that you don't agree with what we plan on doing but it should be pretty clear to you that we're going to through with it anyway. I don't see why you can't just agree to disagree and move on.

[Hollywood]

Right, I'm pretty sure we all understand that you don't agree with what we plan on doing but it should be pretty clear to you that we're going to through with it anyway. I don't see why you can't just agree to disagree and move on.

lol..what she said..besides you also made it clear that you like your pink colored forum better!!

[biochemguy]

I never really thought about that. I sort of ignored them when they told us all about that at the first treatment centre I went to...

I need to look up the exact mechanism in my neurochemistry textbook, but K+ is one of the ions (along with Na+) that flows through nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, which allows a neuron to overcome an action potential (the change in voltage of the neuron require for a neuron to fire off) or for a muscle to contract (i.e. your heart and lung muscles). Low K+ concentration lowers the thermodynamic driving force for K+ to flow into the neuron upon receptor activation, thus lowering the probability of an action potential being reached inside the cell, thus more and more chaotic firing, until the muscle/neuron goes...DERP.

[abitdifferent]

lmaoo do any of you own this website?

NO

so your the idiots here not me. you aren't gonna do shit!

[The Aftermath]

hahaha this is sooooooo sad man wtf is happening on here!?!?!

We're trying to improve things and educate people. How is that sad?

We're not saying it will work. We're going to try anyway though because there IS a chance that one person will read it and think "wow, maybe I should try to lose weight the healthy way. I don't want to go through that."

And if not, WHATEVER. Not a big deal. At least we spent our time doing something worthwhile that serves to FIGHT eating disorders rather than giving more time and attention to our own.

Nobody cares what you think. What we're doing is admirable.

[Ritesh]

Ok after kinda reading this thread my head is clearly spinning right now.. at this point i have managed to clearly ignore what everyone on here said before i lose my mind. Can we just skip this topic and leave things as it is.... lol

[abitdifferent]

ohhh and I loved you telling me to go back to anabites! considering I have anorexia and not dieter. I thought it was me who was the type of person who should be using this site? you shouldn't be telling me to go away now should you tut tut tut

I might have to start posting again...:]

[Hollywood]

lmaoo do any of you own this website?

NO

so your the idiots here not me. you aren't gonna do shit!

Ritesh is reading it now.

[biochemguy]

Ok after kinda reading this thread my head is clearly spinning right now.. at this point i have managed to clearly ignore what everyone on here said before i lose my mind. Can we just skip this topic and leave things as it is.... lol

Oh come on. It's just 14+ pages of thread within a half hour. ;D

[The Aftermath]

I need to look up the exact mechanism in my neurochemistry textbook, but K+ is one of the ions (along with Na+) that flows through nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, which allows a neuron to overcome an action potential (the change in voltage of the neuron require for a neuron to fire off) or for a muscle to contract (i.e. your heart and lung muscles). Low K+ concentration lowers the thermodynamic driving force for K+ to flow into the neuron upon receptor activation, thus lowering the probability of an action potential being reached inside the cell, thus more and more chaotic firing, until the muscle/neuron goes...DERP.

I never did understand the magnitude of the risk of an electrolyte imbalance. It makes more sense now. Neat!

[Gremlin]

I need to look up the exact mechanism in my neurochemistry textbook, but K+ is one of the ions (along with Na+) that flows through nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, which allows a neuron to overcome an action potential (the change in voltage of the neuron require for a neuron to fire off) or for a muscle to contract (i.e. your heart and lung muscles). Low K+ concentration lowers the thermodynamic driving force for K+ to flow into the neuron upon receptor activation, thus lowering the probability of an action potential being reached inside the cell, thus more and more chaotic firing, until the muscle/neuron goes...DERP.

Well if they had explained it like that I would have payed (correct spelling? I'm crap at spelling) more attention to them. It's far more interesting when the actual science is explained.

[Hollywood]

ohhh and I loved you telling me to go back to anabites! considering I have anorexia and not dieter. I thought it was me who was the type of person who should be using this site? you shouldn't be telling me to go away now should you tut tut tut

I might have to start posting again...:]

You are already posting..and I see you like to pick fights..Well, i'm finished interacting with you anyway. Hopefully the others will stop responding to you as well.

[Gremlin]

Ok after kinda reading this thread my head is clearly spinning right now.. at this point i have managed to clearly ignore what everyone on here said before i lose my mind. Can we just skip this topic and leave things as it is.... lol

Do you want someone to explain it? It would probably be a lot simpler that way since there was no way to organize our thoughts in the thread as we went along.

[Hollywood]

Ok after kinda reading this thread my head is clearly spinning right now.. at this point i have managed to clearly ignore what everyone on here said before i lose my mind. Can we just skip this topic and leave things as it is.... lol

ATo view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. knew it..it's just too much work, isn't it..is that the problem?

[biochemguy]

I never did understand the magnitude of the risk of an electrolyte imbalance. It makes more sense now. Neat!

And those are just with neurons and muscle cells. ALL cells in your body require K+ to be balanced to maintain other things like osmolarity or symport/antiport transporter proteins. That is why a majority of your ATP goes to powering Na/K ATPases.

[awake]

I know I don't have much say around here, but I just want to point out that if most people were to click any thread and see an actual essay and didn't x out right there. They'd skim it, decide it's just "scare tactics" x out and move on to the threads that talk about weight loss, which is what they're here for. I get the point you're trying to do and it's honorable, but I don't think it's going to work like you hope it will.

[Gremlin]

I know I don't have much say around here, but I just want to point out that if most people were to click any thread and see an actual essay and didn't x out right there. They'd skim it, decide it's just "scare tactics" x out and move on to the threads that talk about weight loss, which is what they're here for. I get the point you're trying to do and it's honorable, but I don't think it's going to work like you hope it will.

All I would hope is that at least one person reads through it and it has a slight impact on the way they think about eating disorders. Just one.

[Hollywood]

All I would hope is that at least one person reads through it and it has a slight impact on the way they think about eating disorders. Just one.

either way, Ritesh said no..so it's done with..we tried...It'd be cool to do for us anyway and just to have at home..but on here I can already see that it would get shot down.

[JaydeNJ]

As much as I hate the wanna's and the tip asking, I would hate it if this place became like anabites (which in description says pro-recovery). We should be banning people after one warning of giving tips. The TOS is there and if people don't follow, they shouldn't be here. There's a reason the TOS is what it is, so the host can't decide we're pro-ana site and shut us down. I like this site and the ability to freely post, and I would be upset if it was changed to be more recovery oriented instead of the neutral environment we have here.

So instead of tips, we should be encouraging them to leave, because honestly, if they need tips, they're not deep enough into their EDs that they can't get out.

And part of me doesn't think anyone will read something too long. We have pages full of information on the site already and obviously few have read them. But then I am a pessimist when in the depths of my disorders.

[abitdifferent]

I know I don't have much say around here, but I just want to point out that if most people were to click any thread and see an actual essay and didn't x out right there. They'd skim it, decide it's just "scare tactics" x out and move on to the threads that talk about weight loss, which is what they're here for. I get the point you're trying to do and it's honorable, but I don't think it's going to work like you hope it will.

THAT'S THE FUCKIN MINDSET RIGHT THERE ^^^^^^^^^^^ too right

and this "Helping 1 person" thing is just insane...if ya wanna share your story so much...why not do it on a blog and put it in your sig? same thing isn't it?

[Gremlin]

either way, Ritesh said no..so it's done with..we tried...It'd be cool to do for us anyway and just to have at home..but on here I can already see that it would get shot down.

Oh well. It's a shame. I'd still like to know other peoples' experiences with it.

[biochemguy]

Dang. I can't get my nerd on.

[Hollywood]

Yeah..Ritesh said to wait and see what other people think. but, by the looks of it, it isn't going well. its five of us against 3.

[Hollywood]

Dang. I can't get my nerd on.

I love this...and yes you can ..Gremlin and I would still like to hear it. So PM us an essay about how anorexia and bulimia effect us on the cellular level. ASAP.

[Gremlin]

Dang. I can't get my nerd on.

You created a science thread, correct? And, like Holywood said, we still want to hear how EDs effect the body on a cellular level.

[biochemguy]

I love this...and yes you can ..Gremlin and I would still like to hear it. So PM us an essay about how anorexia and bulimia effect us on the cellular level. ASAP.

MLA or APA citation style? haha

[Gremlin]

MLA or APA citation style? haha

It's horrible, I haven't been in school so I can't remember the difference!!!! Noooooooo

[Hollywood]

MLA or APA citation style? haha

I like the MLA format myself thank you. I HOPE YOU DO THIS IT WILL BE AWESOMESAUCE.

[biochemguy]

Working on it right now, since I have nothing else to do. Well...except watch Forgetting Sarah Marshall. haha

[Hollywood]

Working on it right now, since I have nothing else to do. Well...except watch Forgetting Sarah Marshall. haha

YESSS. so we still win in someway. I feel smarter. (MLA is more commonly used in essays APA is less commonly used and more for journalistic puposes.)

[Gremlin]

Yay!! Awesome!!


Awesome that you're working on it, by the way... I haven't seen the movie so I have opinion on that...

[Gremlin]

YESSS. so we still win in someway. I feel smarter. (MLA is more commonly used in essays APA is less commonly used and more for journalistic puposes.)

RIGHT! I learned that in grade 5, why did I forget?

[biochemguy]

Haha although the report will probably be more on bulimia and how hypokalemia can affect cell biochemistry. I'm less familiar with the health effects of anorexia. :/

[Hollywood]

Haha although the report will probably be more on bulimia and how hypokalemia can affect cell biochemistry. I'm less familiar with the health effects of anorexia. :/

it's alright..I'm sure the effects are similar in some way..and it' will still be interesting..that way you can learn anorexia on a later date and give us another report on it. haha. Also someone rated this thread as a 1 star.

[Gremlin]

Haha although the report will probably be more on bulimia and how hypokalemia can affect cell biochemistry. I'm less familiar with the health effects of anorexia. :/
It will be interesting. I don't know much about bulimia, actually...


it's alright..I'm sure the effects are similar in some way..and it' will still be interesting..that way you can learn anorexia on a later date and give us another report on it. haha. Also someone rated this thread as a 1 star.
Oh wow. Where do I rate it?

[Hollywood]

It will be interesting. I don't know much about bulimia, actually...


Oh wow. Where do I rate it?

I think when you go to forums === to anorexia..on the main page somehow..

[The Aftermath]

It will be interesting. I don't know much about bulimia, actually...


Oh wow. Where do I rate it?

Right under the name of the thread there are some options. Click "rate this thread."

5 STARS FROM ME, BABY

[Gremlin]

Right under the name of the thread there are some options. Click "rate this thread."

5 STARS FROM ME, BABY

Awesome :) I'll go rate it!!

[Hollywood]

Right under the name of the thread there are some options. Click "rate this thread."

5 STARS FROM ME, BABY

You guys are awesome..Thanks!! and your funny aftermath

[Hollywood]

We are at 4 start out of 5..

[Gremlin]

We are at 4 start out of 5..

That's pretty good.

[Hollywood]

Yup..I should go to bed its 3am here..we shall talk again soon! feel free to write me anytime anyone! Hope this works out.

[epona]

Maybe just make a informative post at the top. Compilation of guides. Both pro ana and healthy. The wanna's can find all the information they want without having to ask for it. Its against the forums policy to give tips. But keeping information from people isnt gonna stop them from getting it one way or another. Atleast this might decrease the amount of wanna's asking for tips.

so we should just give them the tips, so they dont ask for him?
and sorry but im kinda confused by the phrase "pro ana" being in the same sentence as "healthy"....

[100pounds]

It means what it means , don't ask...and seriously, new people, you will not get tips from us, we will not tell you how to make yourself sick, so please stop asking. I just had a girl post this on my wall: "For the past year, every time I've googled stuff about losing 100 lbs & anorexia, I've came across your post where you shared your before & after picture. You are such an inspiration to me. I hope I can be as strong as you & lose the weight like you have. I don't care what it takes, I think I'm finally ready. If you could give me any tips I'd really appreciate it! "


Have you ever considered taking down the post that comes up in the search? I mean, it's pretty obvious... it's going to cause the kind of reaction you are getting, you shouldn't be surprised. At least take down the photos. :)

I like this site and all but sometimes people get upset over things that don't make sense. I mean, the site's name is 'whyeat'. People are going to come here for tips and weight loss advice, period. Eating disorders are centered around food and weight. So why are people surprised when newbies and others come here asking for tips? Why get upset about it? Makes no sense! Not everyone is going to get to the level of understanding you have about the dangers of eating disorders - they are busy fighting their own battles, listening to their own 'dictator' voice within that is telling them what to do.

[nathrakh]

so we should just give them the tips, so they dont ask for him?
and sorry but im kinda confused by the phrase "pro ana" being in the same sentence as "healthy"....

Just meant. That they could list the popular methods being used by people with eating disorders with a disclaimer on how unhealthy and bad it is. And then post healthy alternative, weight loss methods instead. Maybe people will be encouraged to use a healthy weight loss method instead straight away, or after they ""tried disordered eating as a diet"". All it takes is a google search on abc and people will find a unhealthy weightloss method anyways.

[epona]

im also wondering as to how much it would help
but still i dont believe a defeatist attitude will accomplish anything, either
admittedly i am more often annoyed by people asking for tips than i am worried for them, but still..even if we could make one person think about what they are doing and get out of it before they fall too deep, it would be worth a little of our time
i honestly wouldnt wish this mental shit-hole on my worst enemy

[nathrakh]

Since we are on the internet i just ignore things i dont like. I just skip posts i dont want to read. I believe in a educative approach. Give people all the information they want, and allow them to judge and decide for themselves. But by providing a huge list that includes healthy methods aswell atleast it might encourage people to try those instead. After u tried or have been overweight for a large portion of ur life. It can feel like losing weight in a healthy way is impossible.

[epona]

Since we are on the internet i just ignore things i dont like. I just skip posts i dont want to read. I believe in a educative approach. Give people all the information they want, and allow them to judge and decide for themselves. But by providing a huge list that includes healthy methods aswell atleast it might encourage people to try those instead. After u tried or have been overweight for a large portion of ur life. It can feel like losing weight in a healthy way is impossible.

feels impossible...but isnt.
being underweight is just as unhealthy as being overweight - its just unhealthy in different ways. and an underweight bmi is nearly always the end result of an eating disorder, which is what is encouraged if we just freely give out tips.
im sure people will figure out tips on their own if they are determined enough, people will undoubtedly develop ED's without our help - mine i developed without ever having been on an anorexic support forum like this one. but if we just put tips out there, thats making it too easy...it makes us part of the problem, not the solution.
i still feel guilty for being a part of one of my friends ED development. she saw what i did, how thin i was, and how everyone treated me better because of it...and she started dieting too, and kept cutting back on cals until she barely ate.
i have enough guilt for that, i dont need to actively give tips to people i dont even know.

[Hollywood]

Which is why I think what we are doing is noble in some way..Yeah we read huge essays from doctors who don't know and have never experienced it. But if I read an essay before this ever started from those who actually suffered..I might listen.

[Hollywood]

Have you ever considered taking down the post that comes up in the search? I mean, it's pretty obvious... it's going to cause the kind of reaction you are getting, you shouldn't be surprised. At least take down the photos. :)

I like this site and all but sometimes people get upset over things that don't make sense. I mean, the site's name is 'whyeat'. People are going to come here for tips and weight loss advice, period. Eating disorders are centered around food and weight. So why are people surprised when newbies and others come here asking for tips? Why get upset about it? Makes no sense! Not everyone is going to get to the level of understanding you have about the dangers of eating disorders - they are busy fighting their own battles, listening to their own 'dictator' voice within that is telling them what to do.

Because it's in the rules. That's why we get upset about it. It's against the rules..and I don't know where this post is coming up when I lost all the weight, I can't find it on google anywhere. And I don't know where to find it on here. I posted it over a freaking year ago so it's lost somewhere. That wasn't the point regardless. It was the fact that the girl asked for tips when it's against the rules. And it's said to read the rules before you join the site..they may read it and not give a shit.

[Hollywood]

im also wondering as to how much it would help
but still i dont believe a defeatist attitude will accomplish anything, either
admittedly i am more often annoyed by people asking for tips than i am worried for them, but still..even if we could make one person think about what they are doing and get out of it before they fall too deep, it would be worth a little of our time
i honestly wouldnt wish this mental shit-hole on my worst enemy

Yeah I'm not sure how it will go over either..but we could at least try. Ritesh said he is waiting to see what other's think about it and it isn't looking so good. The odds are against us.

[abitdifferent]

this is getting funnier by the day. I hope it carries on. hall of fame material this

[weightlessrunner]

Ok I admit I skipped a few pages in this thread but I'm going to be the pin that pops your bubble. I think what you want to do is great but they don't see that they are asking for anorexic tips. They see it as it's a quick fix weight loss scheme. Unless they realise what they are doing, there's just going to be a lot of ignorance. Sorry.

[tulips]

This whole board is a manifestation of a bunch of people trying to feel included.
On one side is the "wanna", the other side, the "true" anorexic.

Seriously? You're going to make a board about people posting "TIPS" and rant about how people don't know what "TRUE" anorexia is really like.
SHUT THE FUCK UP.
You realize that this does as much damage, if even more, than any tip will ever do.
This has come up so many times in the past, I swear to God, but seeing as most of you only joined in 2010, I don't blame you for not knowing.

The term "wanna" or "wanorexic" is the stupidest piece of shit I have ever heard. You realize that people who post on this site have some kind of problem with their body, whether they WANT to have an eating disorder or actually do, and I question the truth of a lot of what you people are claiming to have.

I understand that a person plagued with an eating disorder would never want to wish such a thing on another individual. Therefore, the no-tips policy is perfectly sound. However, the term "wanorexic" should be banned from the forum. It gives the illusion of an exclusive club. Like I said previously, the "wanna" on one side, and the "TRUE" anorexic on the other.
If someone referred to me as a "wanorexic", I would be completely pushed over the edge, more so than any stupid tip could, which let's be honest, the internet is already laden with plenty of those that are pretty accessible.
If someone referred to me as a "wanorexic", I would push myself to be a true anorexic, just so people couldn't say that about me anymore. Let's be honest, a "wanna-be" is a derogatory term that's made to make someone feel excluded. I would do everything in my power to be able to hold the "GRAND TITLE" of ANOREXIC. Because let's be honest, that's what you guys are making it out to be. I don't care how many illnesses and pains you go through everyday, and you don't care about mine either. If there is one thing I hate, it's when I see a list of ailments that a person allegedly suffers from. You think that's going to stop a person who is already fast down the lane of self-destruction? NO. Nobody cares what you suffered, because let's be real here, we've all suffered from something. Whether it be anorexia, bulimia, ednos, or a poor freaking self-esteem. You think because you have anorexia, you know more about suffering than someone with a low self-esteem? You don't.
I've said it before, we are all on this site for OURSELVES, whether we are seeking encouragement or recovery.

And yes I did post encouragement in the "Losing..." board. And no, I did not post any fucking tips. However, I will not refrain from posting general information. That's like trying to blind-fold a blind man.

Get off your high horses and have some respect for other people. I don't feel bad for any of you. Seeing a sob story about someone's various ailments isn't going to be stop me from what I want. YES, anorexia is a disease, a mental illness, but it's also something I WANT. I HAVE it, and it sucks, but I still want it.

It's sad that this board has gained so many posts of bashing and complaining about the "IGNORANCE" of others when it comes to understanding YOU, when there are so many stagnant posts from people asking for help or encouragement. An eating disorder does not have ONE UNIFORM SOURCE. Reasons can vary from person to person. Yes, one person may starve herself from depression, but another may do it just because she/he has a warped sense of beauty. It's a MENTAL illness. It has to do with the mind. I think I'd be correct in saying we don't all have the same uniform mind.

Have you guys not noticed the same of this website.
WHY EAT.
It could be a legit question to another. Why Eat? The answer: to live.
Or it could be a question for yourself. Why should I eat? It's pointless.
This site is fucking pro-ana. It's pro-recovery as well.
To say that this site is not pro-ana is a JOKE. Think about why you really joined this site. Honestly.

[tulips]

Ok I admit I skipped a few pages in this thread but I'm going to be the pin that pops your bubble. I think what you want to do is great but they don't see that they are asking for anorexic tips. They see it as it's a quick fix weight loss scheme. Unless they realise what they are doing, there's just going to be a lot of ignorance. Sorry.

You know what I call ignorance?
When people assume they know another person's thoughts and intents.
How do you know they are looking for a "quick fix"?
You don't even want to know how I feel into anorexia, because it will make your theory sound like a load of self-entitled crap.

[tulips]

Which is why I think what we are doing is noble in some way..Yeah we read huge essays from doctors who don't know and have never experienced it. But if I read an essay before this ever started from those who actually suffered..I might listen.

I wouldn't be so quick to discredit a doctor.
You are one person, you have your singular reasons. But a doctor has spoken with many individuals diagnosed with an eating disorder. Experiences vary from person to person.
Reading an essay about a person's sufferings would probably trigger me more.

[abitdifferent]

Tulip is a fuckin legend lol

[epona]

You know what I call ignorance?
When people assume they know another person's thoughts and intents.
How do you know they are looking for a "quick fix"?
You don't even want to know how I feel into anorexia, because it will make your theory sound like a load of self-entitled crap.

because most of them are looking for a quick fix, and they (rightly) assume that an anorexic would know better than anyone how to drop weight. they arent thinking how the questions will affect the person theyre asking, and i know for a fact that some of them consider us to be legitimately crazy and even sub-human in regards to our mental facilities...


I wouldn't be so quick to discredit a doctor.
You are one person, you have your singular reasons. But a doctor has spoken with many individuals diagnosed with an eating disorder. Experiences vary from person to person.
Reading an essay about a person's sufferings would probably trigger me more.

doctors can be good or bad. just because someone has a medical degree doesnt make him a good doctor or good at dealing with patients suffering from eating disorders. example: when i was 14 i told my doctor i had a tumor. he insisted it was just a lymph node. one year later i was still insisting it was a tumor. my rents finally took me to get it biopsied and hey, guess what, it was a tumor and i needed emergency surgery.
doctors are people just like anyone else. people make mistakes.

[tulips]

because most of them are looking for a quick fix, and they (rightly) assume that an anorexic would know better than anyone how to drop weight. they arent thinking how the questions will affect the person theyre asking, and i know for a fact that some of them consider us to be legitimately crazy and even sub-human in regards to our mental facilities...

How do you know this? From experience? As in you were once looking for a quick fix and sought an anorexic for advice?
If that is so, again, you are one person. You cannot generalize hundreds of people into the same thought process as yourself.
However, I do admit that many of them are looking for a "quick-fix" or, more properly fit, an easy way to lose weight.
However, these are people who have a low self-esteem, seeking advice on the internet. Of course they are not going to put a face to the person they're talking to, much less feelings. That is to be expected. You say you refuse to give tips because you don't want these people to suffer like you have, and yet I read terms like "wanorexic" being tossed around to label these people.
And I don't see how these tip-seekers are correlated to the upkeep of a mental facility.
I understand that many people view us as shallow, vain, selfish, crazy, etc., but that personally doesn't bother me. I don't see why it should bother you. You have a choice in seeking help from a good facility or a dank one.

[tulips]

doctors can be good or bad. just because someone has a medical degree doesnt make him a good doctor or good at dealing with patients suffering from eating disorders. example: when i was 14 i told my doctor i had a tumor. he insisted it was just a lymph node. one year later i was still insisting it was a tumor. my rents finally took me to get it biopsied and hey, guess what, it was a tumor and i needed emergency surgery.
doctors are people just like anyone else. people make mistakes.

I think I would be correct in saying that there are a lot of doctors that know what they are doing, more than those that don't. It's not fair to generalize the whole doctor field just because of those few that make "mistakes", as you put it.
Again, experiences vary from person to person.
An anorexic might respond better to a professional, while another may respond better to a personal account.
And there are both options available to anyone seeking recovery.
I don't see any nobleness in giving someone only one option.

[epona]

I think I would be correct in saying that there are a lot of doctors that know what they are doing, more than those that don't. It's not fair to generalize the whole doctor field just because of those few that make "mistakes", as you put it.
Again, experiences vary from person to person.
An anorexic might respond better to a professional, while another may respond better to a personal account.
And there are both options available to anyone seeking recovery.
I don't see any nobleness in giving someone only one option.

by making a post and sharing our experiences with our eating disorders we are not stopping people from seeking medical help from their doctors. im not even going to address the rest, this is bs. all your posts are aggravating me

[The Aftermath]

I do agree with tulips regarding the term wannarexic. It only motivates these people to try and develop a full blown eating disorder. It helps nobody.

I admit I have felt like a "wanna" at times and I'm surely not the only one. For example, times when I binged and broke a fast. I would think "dammit I am such a failure. I can't even be good at my ED. If I were a real anorexic I would have been strong enough to keep fasting." It only drove me further into my ED because I got fed up with my lack of control and was determined to be "better" at starving myself. Sick thinking, I know. And I admit, I did WANT to be anorexic at that point (well I already was but I felt like a failure at it) because I (wrongly) thought that at least if I were "really" anorexic, I would stop binging. I had some rather "wannarexic" thoughts and surfed the web for tips and such because I was fed up with my apparent inability to starve myself.

THE POINT OF MY NOVEL IS: calling someone a wannarexic only reinforces the kind of thinking that will drive them into a real ED. And perhaps some of these people are already really suffering, like I was. Regardless of how stupid the person seems, that word (or the accompanying condescending attitude) should be kept out of it.

That's just my 2 cents. Whaddaya know, I'm a nice person sometimes.

ANYWAY, back to the actual point of this thread...

[tulips]

by making a post and sharing our experiences with our eating disorders we are not stopping people from seeking medical help from their doctors. im not even going to address the rest, this is bs. all your posts are aggravating me

I was referring to your initial post about how you feel noble by giving people the majority option to seek help from experienced individuals.

I'm sorry my opinion doesn't coincide with yours, but that doesn't make it bs.
I can't stop you from feeling aggravated but that's your own choice.

[tulips]

I do agree with tulips regarding the term wannarexic. It only motivates these people to try and develop a full blown eating disorder. It helps nobody.

I admit I have felt like a "wanna" at times and I'm surely not the only one. For example, times when I binged and broke a fast. I would think "dammit I am such a failure. I can't even be good at my ED. If I were a real anorexic I would have been strong enough to keep fasting." It only drove me further into my ED because I got fed up with my lack of control and was determined to be "better" at starving myself. Sick thinking, I know. And I admit, I did WANT to be anorexic at that point (well I already was but I felt like a failure at it) because I (wrongly) thought that at least if I were "really" anorexic, I would stop binging. I had some rather "wannarexic" thoughts and surfed the web for tips and such because I was fed up with my apparent inability to starve myself.

THE POINT OF MY NOVEL IS: calling someone a wannarexic only reinforces the kind of thinking that will drive them into a real ED. And perhaps some of these people are already really suffering, like I was. Regardless of how stupid the person seems, that word (or the accompanying condescending attitude) should be kept out of it.

That's just my 2 cents. Whaddaya know, I'm a nice person sometimes.

ANYWAY, back to the actual point of this thread...

Beautifully put.

[epona]

I was referring to your initial post about how you feel noble by giving people the majority option to seek help from experienced individuals.

I'm sorry my opinion doesn't coincide with yours, but that doesn't make it bs.
I can't stop you from feeling aggravated but that's your own choice.

where the fuck did i say that?
dont put words in my mouth.

[tulips]

where the fuck did i say that?
dont put words in my mouth.

Excuse me, really. The first comment you replied to of mine on this board was a reply to Hollywood's post about feeling noble. You replied to my comment which lead me to think that you were the one who initially posted it. But it was actually Hollywood I was referring to.

[-cavities]

If someone referred to me as a "wanorexic", I would push myself to be a true anorexic, just so people couldn't say that about me anymore.

i must step in to clarify something i feel is being seriously miscommunicated and misunderstood.

if you were a "wanna" (read: somebody who does not have anorexia or rather any ED, but in ignorance, desires or thinks she desires to have it), then you would not push yourself until you became anorexic. an actual anorectic or ED sufferer would have more substantial, preexisting reasons for displaying disordered behavior.
if somebody who IS anorexic is called a "wanna" (e.g. when people on tumblr call me fat despite my being significantly underweight), she can be triggered into "proving" herself bu increasing the severity of her "diet" in accordance with her resentment, self-esteem, or the extent of her self-loathing...

but IF SOMEBODY ENTIRELY IGNORANT TO EATING DISORDERS, AND WHO THINKS THIS IS A "QUICK FIX FOR WEIGHTLOSS" OR THINKS THAT SHE CAN "CHOOSE" ANOREXIA, COMES HERE ASKING FOR TIPS---and many of them ARE--then that person is likely NOT in the danger in which you think they are.

the term "wanna" should not refer to people who already have anorexia--even if they want to keep it (which many of us do).
(fun fact #2 of the day: i recently joined PAO because i got so fed up of certain aspects of this place, and i gotta say, SITC's wanalist is all at once a hilarious, upsetting, and well-executed blog. i applaud the effort behind it, and i do not find anything to be innately "wrong" with the term "wanna" until is used nonsensically. ...at that point, of course, the wrongness is no longer of an innate nature.)

[tulips]

i must step in to clarify something i feel is being seriously miscommunicated and misunderstood.

if you were a "wanna" (read: somebody who does not have anorexia or rather any ED, but in ignorance, desires or thinks she desires to have it), then you would not push yourself until you became anorexic. an actual anorectic or ED sufferer would have more substantial, preexisting reasons for displaying disordered behavior.
if somebody who IS anorexic is called a "wanna" (e.g. when people on tumblr call me fat despite my being significantly underweight), she can be triggered into "proving" herself bu increasing the severity of her "diet" in accordance with her resentment, self-esteem, or the extent of her self-loathing...

but IF SOMEBODY ENTIRELY IGNORANT TO EATING DISORDERS, AND WHO THINKS THIS IS A "QUICK FIX FOR WEIGHTLOSS" OR THINKS THAT SHE CAN "CHOOSE" ANOREXIA, COMES HERE ASKING FOR TIPS---and many of them ARE--then that person is likely NOT in the danger in which you think they are.

the term "wanna" should not refer to people who already have anorexia--even if they want to keep it (which many of us do).
(fun fact #2 of the day: i recently joined PAO because i got so fed up of certain aspects of this place, and i gotta say, SITC's wanalist is all at once a hilarious, upsetting, and well-executed blog. i applaud the effort behind it, and i do not find anything to be innately "wrong" with the term "wanna" until is used nonsensically. ...at that point, of course, the wrongness is no longer of an innate nature.)

I think they are in danger. If someone is so desperate to lose weight (whether it be for prom, beach, surprise date) to go onto Google and search sites having to do with eating disorders, I think there's something seriously wrong there. I already know a lot of people on here that think the world is completely ignorant to eating disorders, but what the world is definitely not ignorant to is the physical repercussions of an eating disorder. We all know. It's advertised everywhere. BEWARE: Eating disorder equals osteoporosis, heart murmur, malnutrition, dehydration, muscle atrophy, paralysis, anemia, liver failure, etc.
This person, this "wanna", has such a low self-esteem they would risk their health, in a BIG way, to lose a couple pounds for one occasion. And then to be actually called a "wanna". I don't think someone with an already severely low self-esteem would take that very well. It could easily lead someone the wrong way.
I say the term "wanna" shouldn't be used to refer to ANY person.

[Hollywood]

I wouldn't be so quick to discredit a doctor.
You are one person, you have your singular reasons. But a doctor has spoken with many individuals diagnosed with an eating disorder. Experiences vary from person to person.
Reading an essay about a person's sufferings would probably trigger me more.

You are known to start a lof of shit on this site btw. In the losing post as well. You bashed endless summer and now you will take any chance you get and bash everyone else. Your an ass. Seriously..

[Gremlin]

You know what I call ignorance?
When people assume they know another person's thoughts and intents.
How do you know they are looking for a "quick fix"?
You don't even want to know how I feel into anorexia, because it will make your theory sound like a load of self-entitled crap.

No one has made any theories on how people fall into an eating disorder. It happens differently for everyone.

[Hollywood]

I was referring to your initial post about how you feel noble by giving people the majority option to seek help from experienced individuals.

I'm sorry my opinion doesn't coincide with yours, but that doesn't make it bs.
I can't stop you from feeling aggravated but that's your own choice.

Your goal is to aggravate people. I haven't seen one good post from you where you don't piss someone off. You don't belong here. You belong on a pro ana site. Your ruining the flow of things. and your well hated by now.

[Gremlin]

I think they are in danger. If someone is so desperate to lose weight (whether it be for prom, beach, surprise date) to go onto Google and search sites having to do with eating disorders, I think there's something seriously wrong there. I already know a lot of people on here that think the world is completely ignorant to eating disorders, but what the world is definitely not ignorant to is the physical repercussions of an eating disorder. We all know. It's advertised everywhere. BEWARE: Eating disorder equals osteoporosis, heart murmur, malnutrition, dehydration, muscle atrophy, paralysis, anemia, liver failure, etc.
This person, this "wanna", has such a low self-esteem they would risk their health, in a BIG way, to lose a couple pounds for one occasion. And then to be actually called a "wanna". I don't think someone with an already severely low self-esteem would take that very well. It could easily lead someone the wrong way.
I say the term "wanna" shouldn't be used to refer to ANY person.

The thing is, a lot of people only know about "pro-ana" because of the media and how the media has portrayed it. There are people who think it's just a good way to loose weight and that nothing serious will happen to them.

[Ali(ve)]

Your goal is to aggravate people. I haven't seen one good post from you where you don't piss someone off. You don't belong here. You belong on a pro ana site. Your ruining the flow of things. and your well hated by now.
I've only been lurking, but I agree with this. Every post of tulips' comes across as rude and negative.


and I don't know where this post is coming up when I lost all the weight, I can't find it on google anywhere. And I don't know where to find it on here. I posted it over a freaking year ago so it's lost somewhere.
I did find the thread as well as a blog post. Did you want me to PM them to you? (I don't know if you can delete the thread though. But maybe you can edit it to get rid of the google hits, or have a mod delete it.)

[Jacklinger]

If someone comes here asking for tips, just send them my way. I've lost 125 lbs without harming myself since joining this site and can probably give them some good advice on what to do.

You guys are very passionate about this issue. I believe that energy is better used in trying to recover if you feel inclined. Please stay civil.

Thanks everyone!

[Gremlin]

If someone comes here asking for tips, just send them my way. I've lost 125 lbs without harming myself since joining this site and can probably give them some good advice on what to do.

You guys are very passionate about this issue. I believe that energy is better used in trying to recover if you feel inclined. Please stay civil.

Thanks everyone!

I think the reason we're so passionate about it is because we don't want other people to get hurt..

[Hollywood]

I've only been lurking, but I agree with this. Every post of tulips' comes across as rude and negative.


I did find the thread as well as a blog post. Did you want me to PM them to you? (I don't know if you can delete the thread though. But maybe you can edit it to get rid of the google hits, or have a mod delete it.)

thank you for agreeing with me. I don'g get angry very often..but when I do..well you saw my posts..and sure could you pm them to me?

[Hollywood]

If someone comes here asking for tips, just send them my way. I've lost 125 lbs without harming myself since joining this site and can probably give them some good advice on what to do.

You guys are very passionate about this issue. I believe that energy is better used in trying to recover if you feel inclined. Please stay civil.

Thanks everyone!

See at least someone understands we are passionate about it..and some don't.. thanks Jacklinger, your the best!! thanks for helping..it was getting out of my hands so I had to come to you.

[Jacklinger]

I think the reason we're so passionate about it is because we don't want other people to get hurt..

That's understandable. Just remember that the vast majority of people who "try" anorexia as a diet quickly lose interest and defer to safer alternatives because they're not able to miss more than one meal without eating again. This is backed up by pretty good science. When you see someone who is asking how to be anorexic, just remember that even if you TRY to help them become anorexic, there is a 90% chance it won't "stick" because there needs to be a psychological component already inside to trigger the illness and you can't really give that to yourself anymore than you could give yourself OCD.

People who want anorexia are just blissfully ignorant of what it is. Go ahead and tell them what it's done to you but don't let it upset you too much. The stress is just not worth it. Remember to be nice and treat such people with kindness even if they upset you. Then you will find you don't get so upset either.

[Ali(ve)]

thank you for agreeing with me. I don'g get angry very often..but when I do..well you saw my posts..and sure could you pm them to me?
You're welcome. We just all try to play nice here, and it sucks when someone who doesn't get that comes along. Even when people are asking for tips, no matter if it upsets someone, someone usually says "hey no tips" rather than throw a fit. However, I do agree that maybe telling your stories would help tip-seekers better than just telling them off.

[Junior]

Why not just have a section in the forum dedicated to tips AND another section dedicated to recovery? That way you have the option to follow these simple but harmful guidelines or read how hard it is to recover from it.

[Gremlin]

Why not just have a section in the forum dedicated to tips AND another section dedicated to recovery? That way you have the option to follow these simple but harmful guidelines or read how hard it is to recover from it.

Having a section with tips would go completely against the rules of the forum. This is a direct quote from the terms of use:


*No tips.* This is a place for people with Eating Disorders to come and cope, not encourage each other to become sicker. No Tips Allowed!

[Junior]

...against the rules of the forum...

The rules can be rewritten. Their not set in stone. :-)

[Hollywood]

The rules can be rewritten. Their not set in stone. :-)

1 that's a bad idea..and 2..you go ahead and tell Ritesh that.

[The Aftermath]

Why not just have a section in the forum dedicated to tips AND another section dedicated to recovery? That way you have the option to follow these simple but harmful guidelines or read how hard it is to recover from it.

I think you're missing the point of the 11 pages this thread has amounted to. TIPS = BAD

[Gremlin]

The rules can be rewritten. Their not set in stone. :-)

That's not really the kind of rule one would want to change seeing as the reason it's there is so people don't become more sick then they already are and it's also probably keeping this site from being shut down like so many "pro-ana" sites out there.

[Gremlin]

I think you're missing the point of the 11 pages this thread has amounted to. TIPS = BAD

And there's that!!

[Junior]

That's not really the kind of rule one would want to change seeing as the reason it's there is so people don't become more sick then they already are and it's also probably keeping this site from being shut down like so many "pro-ana" sites out there.

Which is why you should be given the option to seek help (a feature I don't see many other forums including).


1 that's a bad idea..and 2..you go ahead and tell Ritesh that.

Just did. ;-)

EDIT: You could even go as far as to include a neat little disclaimer stating that this forum isn't responsible for people's actions (which could also list the numerous unhealthy consequences if they so choose to go down that path).

[Gremlin]

Which is why you should be given the option to seek help (a feature I don't see many other forums including).

There is a recovery section in the forum.

[Ritesh]

Rules: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
7. No asking/giving of Harmful or Bad Tips
8. Positive, healthy advice is welcome.

The no tips rules was added in the first place cause it got really bad! with lots of ppl asking and giving of harmful tips. BUT good/positive tips/advise is welcome though...

[Junior]

The no tips rules was added in the first place cause it got really bad...

Did you have a recovery section too at that time? Also, see my above edit.

[The Aftermath]

EDIT: You could even go as far as to include a neat little disclaimer stating that this forum isn't responsible for people's actions (which could also list the numerous unhealthy consequences if they so choose to go down that path).

IMO those disclaimers mean nothing. It's like giving someone a loaded gun, showing them how to use it, and saying "BUT I'm not responsible if you shoot someone." You may not be responsible if it happens because the person obviously has free will but you played a part in the process and definitely influenced that person to use the gun. I have numerous other analogies if this one isn't good enough.

[Junior]

'Twas just a suggestion.
>.>

[Roses]

ye ppl don't read the rules when the register..
if u get ppl asking for tips don't reply to them, just report the thread and we will delete it and slap them in the face!! xx

[Hollywood]

ye ppl don't read the rules when the register..
if u get ppl asking for tips don't reply to them, just report the thread and we will delete it and slap them in the face!! xx

Aww so you mean I can't slap them in the face myself? ;) JK..

[100pounds]

Because it's in the rules. That's why we get upset about it. It's against the rules..and I don't know where this post is coming up when I lost all the weight, I can't find it on google anywhere. And I don't know where to find it on here. I posted it over a freaking year ago so it's lost somewhere. That wasn't the point regardless. It was the fact that the girl asked for tips when it's against the rules. And it's said to read the rules before you join the site..they may read it and not give a shit.

I should have been a bit more clear, I meant why do some of you guys take it personal when they ask for tips, like it's a personal attack. That's how your original post read to me. I apologize if I read it wrong. :)

[tulips]

You are known to start a lof of shit on this site btw. In the losing post as well. You bashed endless summer and now you will take any chance you get and bash everyone else. Your an ass. Seriously..

How did I bash endless summer? You're accusing me of something you can't even put actual substance behind. Quote me directly please. PLEASE explain to me how I did, so I can apologize. If I should.
I don't want to bash anyone, however, I WILL disagree CIVILLY with someone if I feel the need to. Is that allowed?

How am I KNOWN to start a lot of shit? I used to come on here back in 2009. You only joined April 2010. I only started coming on again 2 days ago.
Besides I don't start shit. I told you all what I thought. I'm sorry it doesn't agree with your beliefs. Really, if it bothers you that much, I'm sorry.

I realize that you weren't on last night when were we all talking about this issue, but you are seriously starting up this shit again. It was resolved already.

And yeah, now I am fucking pissed.
1) Because you're a fucking liar. don't accuse me of anything you can't give me proof of.
2) You are purposely starting up this immature drama again.
3) You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of. Bashing.

[tulips]

Seriously guys, end it.

I realize that a lot of you disagree with me, and to be honest I really don't give a fuck. However, I will get defensive if you guys INSULT me just for disagreeing. Who wouldn't?

Instead of arguing about what's allowed and not allowed, why don't you do what you claim this site is actually for? I don't see any of these encouraging boards everyone seems to think this site is made of.
QUIT posting in this fucking juvenile board and find some REAL boards that need positive replies.

Honestly, this ended last night. And if you do want to continue this converstation, ESPECIALLY if you plan on bashing certain individuals, do it over PM. No one else wants to see this load of shit.

[The Aftermath]

The end. :)

[Ritesh]

Wow look at the time!!! It's closing time everyone, hope you guys had fun :D